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December 30th, 2011

Brentwood Tribe,

Our mission at Brentwood Church is to elevate the Gospel of Jesus Christ right here in our community and around the world.  Allow me to share with you what an incredible year 2011 has been!

Let’s begin with our transformation into a full-throttle multi-site church.  As of April, we’re a church of two campuses (ETR and Forest) with more to come.  Furthermore, we’ve experienced record attendance Sundays (just over 2,000) and a record number of decisions for Christ, baptism, volunteerism, community group involvement and global trip participation.  We celebrate these wins as a result of many contributing factors, but a major source is local church stewardship.  Yep, every year we collectively lead our households to tithe and give portions of our income to experience health and growth in this local church.

Another way we share this privilege is through special year-end giving.  That’s when we get to partner with others in this church to give big practically (for tax benefit), but also to give big missionally (to spread the Gospel). Basically, we transform tax money into kingdom-building money.

That’s amazing.  No other government in the world lets you do such an impactful thing… increase your own bottom line while giving to the mission and vision of the local church OR the charity of your choice.  So, to those who are able to make year-end contributions beyond their regular giving, I’d ask you to consider your local church first.

Here’s how: Go to our website and give online.

I can’t wait to start another year together, because we’ve got some world-changing things to resource in 2012.

Onward,

Pastor Jon

When A Man Leads Himself, The Home Will Follow

September 2nd, 2011

I believe a man’s wife and children are often a reflection of his own self leadership. Where he’s winning in the heart and mind, they will respond; where he’s losing, visa versa. Now, I also believe in free will and personal responsibility of individuals, so a wife and child can go AWOL even under ideal masculine leadership. However, a man’s leadership plays a big role when drama hits the home front.

Below is an email response I sent to a man in a tough spot. His wife and college age son are constantly supporting and enabling each other’s disregard for his leadership in the home. Sometimes he feels like it’s them against him. Here’s some advise I gave that might help you as well. (Note: You’ll have to fill in some blanks, because some advise is based on what I previously know about his story.)

“…This email is only to encourage you that you can move forward with your wife and son, but it’s going to take a lot of work and responsibility on your part as a leader. Also, this email is only one grain of sand, on a shoreline of wise counsel and changes, you must seek in your life.”

“Here we go: what your experiencing with your wife and son are likely two sides of the same coin. Brace yourself: They both have a hard time trusting and respecting you. Sure, they should just do those things because you are “the man of the house,” but I wish it were that easy. Trust and respect are earned over years, not demanded on a whim or urge.”

“Yes, it bothers you that your wife undermines you and enables your son’s childishness. Yes, it makes you feel disrespected that your son consumes your resources and material provision, but doesn’t seem to care about your leadership in his life. You are neither crazy nor abnormal to think those thoughts. But, these two relationships are a reflection of the choices you’ve made over time. That’s hard to hear, I know. And yet, you have hope and options.”

“Options: 1) you can keep demanding they listen to you simply because you pay the bills and are a man. You may win some short term behavior changes, but you’ll never win their hearts.”

“Or, 2) you can become trustworthy and respectable, win their hearts, and watch them slowly open themselves to your leadership. That’s going to take a dismantling of your current thinking, and rebuilding of a new one (the Aplostle Paul calls it the transformation of the mind). This will require personal responsibily, self-reflection, counseling, mentoring and lots of reading…”

I have high hopes that this man will take some big steps to lead better by first leading himself. But, I wonder how many men out there truly realize that their wife and kids are a reflection of their own self leadership.

Thoughts?

What I Learned In Prison

August 9th, 2011

Months ago, I was sitting at a local dessert place with my family. The joint was new and thriving, packed with other mini-van driving family men like me—guys who’ve moved their tribe to safer and quieter neighborhoods. Then, just when I was about to bottle up my self-satisfying moment, a desperate void intercepted and startled me. No, I didn’t feel guilty for wanting to provide and protect for my family or eating gluttonous amounts of frozen yogurt with them from time to time. Okay, I did feel some guilt about downing the hot tub-sized yogurt, but that’s for another day. Instead, something seemed to be getting lost in me; a responsibility that usually drives me was misplaced somewhere in the blessings and comfort I was embracing.

An inward dissection of my life began right there beneath the IKEA light where I sat, and I concluded that I had unknowingly insulated myself from desperate and wayward stories. I’m not talking about third-world poverty or global disasters, but people in my own community who are absolutely falling apart. As a pastor, I have my own rock bottom tale and have helped many over the years find their way up again too, but those last several weeks I found myself delegating disaster to others, while I thought, wrote and spoke “deep thoughts” to crowds. Bottom line: I was in danger of quickly becoming an ivory tower sell-out who spoke about wounds and tragedy like black holes and string theory. But, a visit to prison stopped my crawl up the tower and helped me get back to earth again.

Here’s how it happened: A lady I hired for some construction found out I was also a local pastor. She insisted that I go see her friend in jail and encourage him, so I agreed to visit him. Before I knew it, a few days later I was ducking through a metal detector with some inmates at the regional jail. This was an unfamiliar world to me.

After the scan, I broke from the pack towards a sliding Star Wars door made entirely of bulletproof steel and glass. I seriously thought I was supposed to wait for a droid or alien humanoid to guide me further (other nerds know what I mean), but for the next leg of the journey, I had to go it alone. Then, on cue, the door hissed and rolled open. Now, it was a portal and the world inside was one of cinder block crypts inhabited by isolated spirits; men and women who had lost their way somehow and now must pay a debt to those walls. That’s when I started connecting the dots. I had been sent there to find what I was losing.

Once inside the compartment, the breach was automatically sealed shut behind me. My panic reflects kicked in, so I lunged to escape, but I regained my wits and surrendered. Soon, an opposing door opened and pointed me to an elevator, then up to the fourth floor and into a fathomless hallway of more doors. I was exhausted already. Every step seemed to represent an old life I had lived, one where I continued down hallways that locked me deeper in despair. In fact, the corridor seemed almost designed to vanquish my will to be free. As much as I wrestled to go deeper and stand tall with my head high, the more like a chained-up hound I became. Maybe this is how prisons are supposed to be.

Eventually, though, I got to my assigned visitation room, a cave lit by fluorescent tubes and furnished by four chairs against divided cubicles. A glass window divided the space in two and separated the guest from the prisoner. No one was there, yet, and a void rushed in to panic me again. I was in prison now, I thought. This must be what it’s like to be locked away and forgotten—a somewhat familiar feeling to me, born out of my own disastrous past.

For a couple minutes I stood and waited, just staring through the glass barrier for any hints that I was in the right spot. The surface was dirty. Oily smudges made a haze of hand prints—mementos of loved ones who longed to touch the person on the other side, but one inch of glass kept them a universe apart while still in the same room. Was that print a mother’s last touch before she said farewell to her convicted son? How long did she keep her hand there, weeping desperately and wanting to crawl through that glass and take home her boy? These questions tumbled around my head as I waited. What was it like for my own mother when I broke her heart?

Soon, a guard scanned the opposing window, opened the chamber behind the glass and a 40-something-year-old man in orange walked in. I concluded it was Jack, the man I was scheduled to see, and then we both sat down to face each other. Our introductions were swift and straight to the point.

Through a telephone speaker I asked, “What’s your story? Tell me how you got here.”

He seemed disarmed by my lack of pre-tense, pushed the talk button and opened right up by unfurling a story of how he lived completely self-indulgently and self-destructively most of his life. He worked hard, drank hard and was, not surprisingly, terrible at marriage. Both of his marriages ended nuclear, and the divorce papers and charges filed were signed by Wife Number Two’s same embittered hand. One millisecond of drunken domestic rage had put him on the other side of that glass—a defendant and second-time divorcee—and might keep him there for a very long time.

“So now, I’m waiting on sentencing,” he concluded.

Then, I asked a risky question.

“How are you doing?” I said.

I was dumbfounded by his answer.

“I’m better than I’ve ever been,” he replied. “I feel more free now than all my life combined.”

I asked him to explain, so out came a story of honest redemption. He rested his hand on a Bible and started to describe how a pastor, like me, came to visit him months before. This man shared a different road for his life, and how it began with him getting honest about his junk, seeking forgiveness and deciding to change the entire way he thought about and acted towards himself and the world.

“I’m not the same man I was six months ago,” he added. “That man hit his rock bottom, ended up here and finally died. Who you see right now is a resurrected person.”

He thumbed through his Bible, read me passages and pointed them back to his own story. There was no doubt Jack had been turned right side up by what he now believed, and none of those guards and bars and steel doors seemed to imprison his heart. He couldn’t stop telling other about the revolution going on inside of him, and now I was just one more to hear his proclamation.

The more he spoke, the more I recognized I was not there to encourage him at all, but instead, there to have my own life reset by his. Slowly and unconsciously, I had stopped believing that my own healing and blessing carried a responsibility to help others do likewise, not from a computer screen or a stage, but eye-to-eye behind prison bars. And, ironically, I had buried my own story of once being a lost cause, hitting rock bottom and coming back from the dead, only to find it through Jack’s redemption story.

Before I left, I offered to pray for him and he accepted without hesitation, but did so by putting his palm against the glass. He wanted me to touch the glass too, so I reached out and put my hand where his was. Right then, we became brothers in a struggle to never forget what changed us and never stop going to the bottom to help others come back to life, too.

The Why and How We Went Multi-Site in Forest

April 20th, 2011

Here’s the why and how we decided to go multi-site and to start in Forest, VA.  To join the prep team in the video contact: brian@brentwoodchurch.org

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Thoughts on Yesterday’s Launch

April 18th, 2011

Yesterday, our church took a bold step into a God-sized vision, and what a step it was.  I’m so pumped and overwhelmed with kingdom pride.  We did it!  We actually launched as a multi-site church, but greater than that, we embraced more of God’s trust and mission.  Sure, there was a lot of hard work, sacrificing and planning to go live with tremendous success, and it paid off, but I believe the spiritual journey is the unseen, mighty river that triumphed; we trusted God, and He put more trust in us.

When I saw our staff, leadership and volunteers, at both sites, I was so blown away by the overt transformation in their countenance.  Somehow, like Israel crossing the Jordan, everyone seemed like a different tribe, more focused on God’s promise and plan than ever before.  Honestly, I’ve been doing life and leadership with some of you guys for years, and yet, I saw greater wisdom, confidence and strength than when we first began.  Growing up as Christ-followers and leaders is a walk of victory and heartbreak, beauty and survival, but in the context of community, locking arms with people you love and trust, it is a walk of fullness and light.  And, I am changed by every second of it.

Finally, here’s a cool story:  This morning I spoke with a guy at Starbucks who invited his wayward father to Forest yesterday.  He said his dad showed up, experienced the hospitality and proclamation of our church, and later texted him that he wants to come back to Jesus.  Yes, my eyes are watering as I type this.  Why?  Because I never stop getting moved and wrecked by these redemption stories.

I can’t wait to reach our community and world in miraculous ways, for more miraculous years.

Onward,

Jon

The Significance of Tomorrow for Brentwood Church

April 16th, 2011

Brentwood Church,
There’s a story from my growing up that might help you understand my sentiments about tomorrow’s big step for our church.

But first, in case you forgot, we’re changing everything by becoming a multi-site church (one church in multiple locations). Tomorrow morning at 5:30a.m., about 20 men and women will prep Jefferson Forest High School, with prayer and portable equipment, to make it a gathering space for Gospel proclamation. Then, hundreds more will fill the space and join the mission to grow a prevailing church in that community. Simultaneously, others in our church will relaunch our original site on English Tavern Road and breathe new momentum into the sails of an equally growing community.

So here’s that story I mentioned: When I was twelve, I came across a hidden Christmas present in our walk-up attic–yes, it was a creepy, old attic. There, beneath a couple grandma quilts, was a Schwinn 10-speed bike that I requested for Christmas, but believed was an impossible delivery for my parents financially. And yet, somehow it was there and ready for Christmas Day. Honestly, the surprise would’ve stayed in tact if I hadn’t seen the back tire barely peaking from the cloth, an undeniable hint. Everything in me wanted to remove the almost adequate covering and see it entirely, to study every detail and test all the gears, but I did not. Instead, I did the unthinkable, walked back down the staircase and closed the door. Something in me, despite raging curiosity, still wanted the moment to be ripe and the Christmas reveal to be genuine. A couple weeks later, after unwrapping a box of jeans and socks, my dad submerged from the upper floors carrying that bicycle and a mountainous smile. He seemed elated when my face beamed with surprise, because, although I knew it was a bike beforehand, the time had not been right for me to see its fullness. And then, I saw how magnificent it truly was in the perfectly designed moment.

So, here we are on the eve before Brentwood Church is revealed a new horizon and accepts a gift we saw hints of beforehand, but never imagined its full potential, and I can’t describe my excitement. Honestly, I’ve seen hints of this day for a couple years, but I picture tomorrow somewhat like that Christmas Day at twelve, only exponentially more significant. For me, it will be an audacious step into more of God’s trust and opportunity to grow His Church and transform people through it. And it will be exactly the moment when our church is ready.

Tomorrow is only a beginning, but one I think God has prepared us for. So, let the gift overwhelm you as we together unwrap an amazing surprise.

Go Change the World!
Jon

Physical Health and Spiritual Maturity. Really?

February 25th, 2011

Does God really care about our physical health, the way we steward our mortal bodies? Come on, aren’t our bodies just going to perish anyway? Maybe asking if God cares what we eat and how much we move isn’t the best question. Scriptures is clear that salvation is faith in Christ alone, and not our health habits, so “care” may not be the best line of questions. A better question is: Does God reward the way we eat and move our physical bodies? Hmmm?

Below is a cut from an email I received today about physical health and spiritual maturity.

“[My husband] and I just completed our first Daniel’s Fast together. It was an amazing experience. Not only was it eye-opening, but it helped us reach clarity in some areas and brought us into deeper prayer in others. We also felt great physically afterward. For someone who has been on every crash diet in the book and struggled with eating disorders throughout high school and college, feeling balanced and spirit-led in eating was a first.”

“Here is what compelled me to write: Now that our fast is over, I am struggling with what to do next as far as my diet/eating habits are concerned. I desperately want to honor God with my body in a way I never have before, and break through strongholds of how I view my body and the way I eat (which has always been driven by guilt). I am re-reading “The Maker’s Diet” now and have been praying for direction but seem to be coming up short so far. I say all this because I know I can’t be the only person struggling in this area. In fact, knowing the obesity rates in America, and even in Lynchburg, I believe this has become a spiritual issue, as well as a physical one.”
 
“My point is this: Is this worth addressing to the body as a whole at Brentwood? How to honor God with our bodies–through our diet, fasting and beyond would be well-received and needed. Again, I could be off-base here and forgive my ramblings, but it’s something I’m fighting through right now and felt led to email you about it.”
 
Here’s my response to her:

“Sunday, I drove away from Brentwood, after telling a story about my cheesecake consumption, feeling absolutely crushed by God’s pressing.  Okay, someone joked about my growing stomach, too.  Whether God’s conviction or jovial shame, I got the point: Am I really stewarding the physical body God has given me? Answer: Not like I used to.”

“So, today, is Day-5 of my more reasonable journey back to moderation and balance.  Someone in my community group asked me about my BYOS-salad Wednesday night at our group meal.” 

“‘What’s with the salad?’” He said.

“’Just trying to bring self-control to another area of my life,’” I responded.

“’What’s your plan?’”

I tried to keep it simple,“’Just eating less and clean.’”

“’What?’”

“’Clean food,’ I answered. “Whole, less processed, and less of it.’”

Bottom Line: Does God require that we eat better and exercise more to know Him, inherit His Kingdom and spread the Gospel? My study of Scriptures says no way. And yet, has He wired our physical bodies to last longer and respond better if we take care of it? Yes.

These are mine, but what are your thoughts?

On The Line Sunday

February 17th, 2011

Brentwood Tribe,

What an amazing season we’re in! It seems like yesterday we just dreamed about launching new campuses in the greater Lynchburg area, and now we’ve announced our first site to go live in Forest, as well as a relaunch of ETR, all on April 17, 2011—now, enter the “On The Line” series and prayer journey (See previous post for more about On The Line or click here to listen to series).

Well, this is it. Our upcoming Sunday together (February 20, 2011) is “On The Line” Sunday. That means our 30-Day journey of prayer culminates and we decide how our households will respond to God’s leading on Brentwood’s multi-site future. Already, our leadership teams (20 households includes staff, elders and stewardship team) have given $64,000 toward the $300,000 goal.

Through this journey, though, I’ve asked you to join our leadership teams in praying through 3 big questions:
1) What campus will your family make home? ETR or Forest.
2) What financial sacrifice, over-and-above your regular giving, will you give to reach our community with Christ’s message and mission through Brentwood Church?
3) How will you volunteer and serve to launch these two campuses for success?

I keep hearing and experiencing story after story of people being completely transformed by this entire vision and prayer journey.

Here’s a quick story from one couple who emailed: “We haven’t been to the prayer room but have been praying at home. We’ve updated are budget & found the only place we could cut is our monthly $15 Netflix. $180 isn’t much, eating out? We get pizza maybe once a month. The Holy Spirit told us to check our investments and retirement accounts. They have appreciated such that we can take monies out to balance our budget and support the additional campus. We normally would not take out stock market gains. We are pledging $3000, payable when we receive the money in the next 10 days.

Pretty cool. This couple started with giving up some creature comforts and then the Holy Spirit inspired them to go further and put future investments on the line for their neighbors who need Christ and His Church.

So, if you are a Christian and you’ve stayed around Brentwood for the last six weeks, you know what God is up to here, and whether or not He’s calling you to be a part of it in all-of-the-above ways. Come Sunday ready to join your church in God’s present vision and put it “on the line.”

Can’t wait to bring Christ’s message and mission to more of our neighbors!

With Deepest Love and Gratitude,
Jon

Rekindling the Fire and Wonder of Marriage

February 10th, 2011

There is an ancient practice that can reignite the blaze of a tested marriage. I got your attention with the Ninja talk, didn’t I? Anyway, it has to do with origins of a love story, the very first sparks, when two people realized they were the ones for each other.

I’m like a lot of men and instincts that used to win me points with my wife seem to lounge around in my imagination and wait for me to boot them off the couch with a little effort and care. Once this instinct is awake again, though, I know it means that she and I can fall crazier in love. Call me the carnival freak, but falling crazier in love, a few years into matrimony, sounds like fun to me.

Recently, my wife, Tammy, turned 32-years-old, I surprised her with a nostalgic thrill ride. Here’s how it worked. I kissed her awake, and then whispered an Irish Pub version of “Happy Birthday To You” in her ear. Normally, she would have squinted one eye opened, smirked and rolled back to sleep, but not this time. Two sublime occasions were colliding: Her birthday, and celebrating it while away on vacation. Perfect.

“You have 20-minutes to get ready,” I demanded playfully.

“What?” she asked. “Where are we going?”

“It’s a surprise,” I said. “All I can tell you is it will be kid-free and you’ll need to bring the camera.”

The utterance of “surprise” and “kid-free” catapulted her from the bed and she was completely ready with 30-seconds to spare. Before long, we were heading south down Highway-17 from Ocean Isle Beach, North Carolina, to the South Carolina beach line.

A little back-story might help here: There is a fishing pier on the South Carolina coast that is a time machine for me. Because, when I step onto its salt bleached planks and hear the loops of the surf and seagulls playing, I am 17 again. The pier was once the backdrop where I lived out my late teenage summers and fell desperately in love with a girl. Yes, it always goes back to a girl. To me, it became my armada to sail into an idealized future, to make my way in the world. Part of me, I guess, is still that kid, but I am fortunate that most of him has evaporated and transformed into a different me. Another part of him I don’t ever want to relinquish, though.

Today, that girl from the pier is my wife. And, without a doubt, Tammy has crafted, from heart and hands, a marriage I couldn’t have scripted in a trillion decades. But, those early days on the boards and benches of the pier, when love was skin deep and thriving solely on wonder and naiveté, I still somehow knew she’d be a magnificent woman. Even then, the pier was a time machine, giving flashes of who this girl might be in her 30s and beyond. And, beneath my heart’s immaturity, I wanted in on her story for life.

Up until that day, southbound towards the shore on Tammy’s birthday, neither of us had seen that pier in years. However, something mystical seemed to call us back there, perhaps to rediscover a useful relic from our origins and get us moving toward what should never get lost—that wonder thing.

Soon, we crossed over the tidal bridge towards the main intersection of Garden City, South Carolina, a sliver of sand and low rent vacation towers. We were there. By then, Tammy signaled she was in on the surprise. She, too, must have known the pier was calling us back.

“I love this,” Tammy said.

Then she played back a rush of episodes from when our two families vacationed there: The arcade, Sam’s Corner hot dogs and the photo booth. These were monuments in our tale, like a back lot of enchanted movie sets and costumes. She didn’t say it with words, but I was sure the same was happening to us both … a rekindling. No, neither of us would have described our marriage, at that second or season, as a bad marriage, not even an average one; and yet, I think we both wanted to dive back into the fire and wonder again.

The panorama from the pier’s end was second nature; the horizon sprawled into forever and sat before us as a banquet cake. In a way, it was like we’d never stop returning there. Yet, Tammy’s hair and skin were different now. The ocean blaze showed them more vivid and seasoned than years before. Now, she was a woman and a mother, a wife and my greatest friend. Beautiful.

She rested her elbows on the railing where thousands of names were tattooed into the wood all down the structure. Everything about her seemed fictitious to me right then. I couldn’t keep my eyes off her.

“You’re incredible,” I said.

She blushed and tried to deflect my attention. She pointed out two names inside a heart shape from 1993, the first year we stood there together. We laughed and dared the other to do the carving we hadn’t done back then—Jon and Tammy Forever. In a way, we had unexpectedly become those kids again, only now more comfortable in our skin and closer to what makes life truly sing. I kissed her.

Our morning there on the pier and sidewalks was a slow pace through all the familiar settings from our starting point. Before we left, we added to our collection of photo booth shots from the arcade. So, we drove away with another vintage strip of black-and-white pictures in the dashboard. But, more than anything, we left there with an unsaid promise: Never let those kids from the pier fade away.

No one would call me a marriage expert, but I believe great relationship practices are sometimes the simplest ones. Think about it, something intangible drew us to our spouses from the very beginning; the fire and wonder we couldn’t shake. Some say, however, that all that gets snuffed out in time—paying bills, raising kids and old age. I say no. We just have to get off the couch and go search for it again. For me, at that moment, it was a weathered fishing pier. Tomorrow, it will be something different. Where is it for you?

Why Do You Preach/Teach That Way!

February 8th, 2011

Below is my response to a recent email from a very invested Brentwood volunteer asking some great questions about why we (me specific) teach in series and topics at our church. You’ll have to assume some of the questions, but maybe it will help you know why we preach/teach that way.

Here it is: “Thanks for being a part of the Brentwood family, and I’m glad you love serving, and the teaching here.”

“Hopefully, I can answer your question about how I teach on Sunday. First, let me say, I don’t believe my way is the best way, just the way I think God has wired me. I grew up in a family of preachers, teachers, writers and storytellers, so all that DNA definitely comes into play for me.”

“But, after preaching and teaching for fifteen years, I’ve come to realize God has wired me to be more of an edifying and envisioning teacher, rather than a classic proclaiming preacher or even intellectual. Although, I admire and respect all styles of preaching, and have tried just about all of them as an early pastor, I am most confident in the voice you hear each Sunday. It is my voice, I guess you could say. Before though, I felt I was trying to “put on someone else’s armor.” I wanted to be my dad at first, then Chuck Swindoll and Rob Bell, Andy Stanley and John Piper. Then, it hit me, you are Jon, not those guys. Preach with the voice God gave you. So, that’s what I’ve tried to concentrate on these past few years.”

“I guess my style, and the one I coach to other communicators at Brentwood, is a blend of narrative and contextual teaching. In other words, a Biblical truth (or topic) and a theological mandate, relevant to our church in our world, that is taught and enhanced by personal story, art and even media. Essentially, I try not to use “churchy” or seminary words, but sometimes I just have to say “justification” or “sanctification.”"

“As for preaching through a book of the Bible entirely. Yes, you’re right, I’ve done that, and found that I resonate more as a pastor/leader/teacher when I am looking at the entire Biblical narrative, and not just one book, throughout the life cycles of our church body. With that, I believe all the Bible is inspired and God’s word, but all parts are not helpful all at the same time. So, I find that being thematic and topical is most helpful for the leadership and church body I’m entrusted with. Again, that’s just me. And yet, there are great pastors that flourish in a verse-by-verse, book-by-book style, and I admire them. In fact, I think they’re called to it.”

“The one thing I guess all us preachers and congregants have to remember is that God gives each pastor a particular calling, talent, voice and vision in God’s greater work. And, it’s the pastor’s responsibility to give his best back to God and His church through all that. That’s basically what I try to do each week, and what I try to encourage in other pastors.”

Let me know if this was helpful, and maybe some topics or series you’d like hear covered at Brentwood soon.